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	<title>Comments on: now you can use they, and they can use you too</title>
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	<description>a glimpse into the tiny mind of Chris Radcliff</description>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://globalspin.com/2006/06/now-you-can-use-they-and-they-can-use-you-too/comment-page-1/#comment-3183</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 22:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, I get so little riled up about people possibly propogating bad information that I forget that you&#039;re more reasonable than that!

Thank you for posting that, too. I think there was a touch of academic elitism in my response, too (&quot;man, that&#039;s old news! We talked about that in my undergrad ling classes.&quot;), which is silly.

I should also admit that I was directed to mark such usage wrong on essays I graded for a liberal studies final. He/she is calcified as the singular human pronoun in formal usage so it&#039;ll take a while longer for the English teachers to let go of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I get so little riled up about people possibly propogating bad information that I forget that you&#8217;re more reasonable than that!</p>
<p>Thank you for posting that, too. I think there was a touch of academic elitism in my response, too (&#8220;man, that&#8217;s old news! We talked about that in my undergrad ling classes.&#8221;), which is silly.</p>
<p>I should also admit that I was directed to mark such usage wrong on essays I graded for a liberal studies final. He/she is calcified as the singular human pronoun in formal usage so it&#8217;ll take a while longer for the English teachers to let go of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://globalspin.com/2006/06/now-you-can-use-they-and-they-can-use-you-too/comment-page-1/#comment-3174</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 17:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, but I know a number of cunning linguists, including Deana of the previous comment.  That&#039;s why I saw fit to post it on the blog.  :)  Your insights are welcome, and I&#039;ll definitely borrow the book at some point.  (Karen may end up reading it first, though.)

Besides, I don&#039;t expect anything definitive from &lt;em&gt;A Way With Words&lt;/em&gt;, just like I don&#039;t expect definitive science information from Ira Flatow.  I listen to them each week to discover interesting aspects of our fair language, like using &quot;they&quot; as a singular pronoun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but I know a number of cunning linguists, including Deana of the previous comment.  That&#8217;s why I saw fit to post it on the blog.  :)  Your insights are welcome, and I&#8217;ll definitely borrow the book at some point.  (Karen may end up reading it first, though.)</p>
<p>Besides, I don&#8217;t expect anything definitive from <em>A Way With Words</em>, just like I don&#8217;t expect definitive science information from Ira Flatow.  I listen to them each week to discover interesting aspects of our fair language, like using &#8220;they&#8221; as a singular pronoun.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, also: ask the real linguists (verbivores and others on &lt;i&gt;A Way With Words&lt;/i&gt; are glorified English professors) when you have questions about this kind of stuff. We&#039;ll give the real answers. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, also: ask the real linguists (verbivores and others on <i>A Way With Words</i> are glorified English professors) when you have questions about this kind of stuff. We&#8217;ll give the real answers. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John McWhorter makes this case (and several others dealing with English) in his 1998 book &lt;i&gt;Word ont he Street: Debunking the Myth of a Pure Standard English&lt;/i&gt;. I recommend it--and you can borrow it from me if you like.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John McWhorter makes this case (and several others dealing with English) in his 1998 book <i>Word ont he Street: Debunking the Myth of a Pure Standard English</i>. I recommend it&#8211;and you can borrow it from me if you like.</p>
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		<title>By: deb</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, you know what they say . . .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you know what they say . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I forgot to point out the context for the on-air mention of this.  A lawyer asked about something to replace &quot;he or she&quot; in official business documents (like HR documentation), and both verbivores specifically recommended &quot;they&quot; instead of &quot;he or she&quot; (stilted) or &quot;s/he&quot; (jargon).  That&#039;s the part that floored me, but it really does make sense after a bit of thought.

Given that, though, it&#039;ll take a while for the ramifications to get settled.  It would still feel odd to meet a woman with a newborn on the street and say, &quot;How beautiful!  How old are they?&quot;  It&#039;ll catch on eventually, though, and replace the awkward, &quot;How beautiful?  How old is... h... sh... your baby?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to point out the context for the on-air mention of this.  A lawyer asked about something to replace &#8220;he or she&#8221; in official business documents (like HR documentation), and both verbivores specifically recommended &#8220;they&#8221; instead of &#8220;he or she&#8221; (stilted) or &#8220;s/he&#8221; (jargon).  That&#8217;s the part that floored me, but it really does make sense after a bit of thought.</p>
<p>Given that, though, it&#8217;ll take a while for the ramifications to get settled.  It would still feel odd to meet a woman with a newborn on the street and say, &#8220;How beautiful!  How old are they?&#8221;  It&#8217;ll catch on eventually, though, and replace the awkward, &#8220;How beautiful?  How old is&#8230; h&#8230; sh&#8230; your baby?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Deana</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do this constantly and think it&#039;s fine in speech or casual writing, but I zing students for it in term papers. Does this make me a hypocrite? 

Still, I&#039;ve been noticing this for a while. And I think it&#039;s useful and like that it evolved on its own rather than being introduced artificially. The only time it struck me as odd was when an acquaintance referred to his partner as &quot;they&quot;. I assumed (and was correct) that this acquaintance had a same-sex partner but wasn&#039;t sure how I&#039;d react to that. 

My mom still thinks it&#039;s strange that a female can refer to her all-female group of friends as &quot;guys,&quot; but I think that&#039;s been normal since I was a little kid!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do this constantly and think it&#8217;s fine in speech or casual writing, but I zing students for it in term papers. Does this make me a hypocrite? </p>
<p>Still, I&#8217;ve been noticing this for a while. And I think it&#8217;s useful and like that it evolved on its own rather than being introduced artificially. The only time it struck me as odd was when an acquaintance referred to his partner as &#8220;they&#8221;. I assumed (and was correct) that this acquaintance had a same-sex partner but wasn&#8217;t sure how I&#8217;d react to that. </p>
<p>My mom still thinks it&#8217;s strange that a female can refer to her all-female group of friends as &#8220;guys,&#8221; but I think that&#8217;s been normal since I was a little kid!</p>
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